Barry Liss: $464K Penalty in Oil Well Offering Fraud Scheme
Barry Liss and Carol J. Wayland faced SEC action for oil well offering fraud involving unregistered securities and investor fund misappropriation totaling $464,665.
Barry Liss and the K-T 50 Wells Boiler Room: The $8 Million Oil Patch Con
The office park in Central California looked like a thousand others—beige stucco, tinted windows, a parking lot baking under the summer sun. Inside Suite 207, the phones rang constantly. Men in cheap dress shirts worked the lines, their voices shifting between friendly and urgent as they pitched investments in Kentucky and Tennessee oil wells to retirees across the country. They promised monthly payments, steady income, and a piece of America’s energy independence. The scripts were polished. The confidence was absolute. And nearly every word was a lie.
By the time federal investigators shut down the operation in 2017, the scheme orchestrated by Carol J. Wayland and her associates—including Barry Liss—had pulled in more than $8 million from dozens of investors who believed they were buying into legitimate oil production. Instead, their money disappeared into a labyrinth of personal expenses, undisclosed commissions, and payments to earlier investors in a classic Ponzi structure. The wells, when they existed at all, produced almost nothing. The promised returns never materialized. And the boiler room kept dialing.
The Securities and Exchange Commission’s complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California in July 2017, described an operation that combined old-school cold-calling aggression with the evergreen American fantasy of striking oil. What made the K-T 50 Wells fraud particularly insidious was its exploitation of two powerful psychological triggers: the allure of passive income and the perception of investing in something tangible, something real—holes drilled into American soil, pumping black gold.
Barry Liss was not the mastermind. That distinction belonged to Carol J. Wayland, the woman whose name topped the SEC’s complaint. But Liss played an essential role in what prosecutors described as a coordinated fraudulent scheme that violated virtually every major securities law on the books. His participation illustrated how fraud at this scale requires not just a charismatic frontperson but a supporting cast—people willing to make the calls, sign the documents, and keep the machinery of deception running.
The Cast of Characters
Carol J. Wayland positioned herself as the face of K-T 50 Wells, the limited partnership that served as the vehicle for the fraud. According to SEC documents, she controlled the operation and made the key decisions about how investor funds would be used—or misused. Her co-defendants included Mitchell B. Dow and Steve G. Blasko, each playing distinct roles in the scheme’s execution.
Barry Liss’s specific function within the organization became clear through the SEC’s investigation. He was part of the sales apparatus, one of the voices convincing investors that their money would flow into productive oil wells in Kentucky and Tennessee. The boiler room model depends on volume and persistence—making hundreds of calls to generate dozens of leads to close a handful of sales. Liss was a cog in that machine, but an essential one. Without salespeople willing to deliver the pitch, to overcome objections, to close the deal, schemes like K-T 50 Wells cannot scale.
The beauty of the oil well investment pitch, from a fraudster’s perspective, is its inherent opacity. Most investors have no practical way to verify production levels, assess geological surveys, or monitor day-to-day operations in rural Kentucky and Tennessee. They rely entirely on what the promoters tell them. This information asymmetry creates a fertile environment for misrepresentation, and Wayland’s operation exploited it ruthlessly.
The Promise: Monthly Checks from American Oil
The K-T 50 Wells offering materials painted an attractive picture. Investors were told they would purchase limited partnership interests in oil wells located in proven production areas. The wells would generate revenue through oil sales, and investors would receive monthly distributions based on their share of production. The investment was framed as conservative, backed by hard assets, and generating steady income—precisely the kind of opportunity that appeals to retirees and conservative investors seeking to supplement fixed incomes.
According to the SEC’s complaint, the offering materials contained material misrepresentations and omissions. Investors were not told that the vast majority of their money would not go into drilling, completion, or operating expenses. They were not told about the massive commissions paid to salespeople like Liss and his colleagues. They were not told that Wayland was using investor funds for personal expenses entirely unrelated to oil production. And they were not told that the partnership was using new investor money to pay returns to earlier investors—the classic hallmark of a Ponzi scheme.
The structure was simple but effective. An investor would wire money to K-T 50 Wells in exchange for partnership units. For the first few months, they might even receive the promised payments—modest checks that reinforced the legitimacy of the investment and encouraged them to invest more or refer friends and family. These early payments, however, were not coming from oil revenue. They were coming from the capital contributions of newer investors, a structure that can only end one way: collapse.
Oil well investments occupy a particular niche in the fraud ecosystem. Unlike abstract financial instruments or cryptocurrency schemes, they offer the illusion of tangibility. There are actual wells, actual drilling activity in some cases, actual production reports—even if those reports are fabricated or wildly exaggerated. This veneer of legitimacy makes the fraud harder to detect and easier to rationalize for participants who might otherwise sense something amiss.
The wells associated with K-T 50 Wells did exist, at least on paper. But according to investigators, their production was negligible, far below the levels necessary to support the promised returns. In the oil business, a well’s productivity is measured in barrels per day. The “400 BBLPD” in the partnership’s name suggested production of 400 barrels per day—a respectable figure that would generate substantial revenue at prevailing oil prices. The reality, according to the SEC, was starkly different. Actual production was a fraction of what investors were led to believe, and even that modest revenue was not being distributed as promised.
The Mechanics of Misappropriation
The SEC’s investigation revealed how investor funds were actually used. Instead of flowing into operational expenses and then back to investors as distributions, the money followed a more circuitous and self-serving path. Wayland, according to the complaint, directed substantial sums to personal expenses. The exact nature of these expenses was detailed in court filings: luxury purchases, travel, and other expenditures entirely unrelated to oil production.
But the misappropriation went beyond simple theft. The operation also paid out enormous undisclosed commissions to the sales force. These commissions, which could reach 30% or more of invested capital, were not disclosed in offering materials. Investors believed their money was going into the ground, into steel and drilling mud and the hard work of extracting oil. In reality, a third of it might vanish immediately into the pockets of the person who made the sale.
Barry Liss, as part of the sales operation, would have been on the receiving end of these commissions. The exact amount he personally received is detailed in the final judgment—$464,665. This figure represents not just his compensation for sales efforts, but ill-gotten gains obtained through fraudulent misrepresentations. It’s a substantial sum, roughly half a million dollars earned by convincing people to invest in an operation that was fundamentally dishonest.
The commission structure created perverse incentives. Salespeople were motivated to bring in as much money as possible, regardless of whether the investment was suitable or the disclosures accurate. The more they sold, the more they earned. And because the operation was structured as a Ponzi scheme, there was constant pressure to bring in new money to pay earlier investors and maintain the illusion of profitability. The sales force was not just selling a product; they were keeping the scheme alive.
This dynamic is common in boiler room operations. The phone rooms that peddle everything from penny stocks to time shares to fraudulent oil wells operate on high-pressure, high-commission models that reward volume over ethics. Many of the callers may not fully understand the fraudulent nature of what they’re selling, at least initially. They’re given scripts, trained in objection handling, and told they’re offering legitimate investment opportunities. Over time, however, willful blindness becomes harder to maintain. When investors start calling back asking why they haven’t received promised returns, when production reports don’t match initial projections, when questions go unanswered—the signs accumulate.
For Liss, the decision to participate in the scheme, whether made knowingly from the start or gradually through moral compromises, had severe consequences. The SEC does not typically pursue salespeople in these cases unless they played a significant role or received substantial proceeds. Liss’s inclusion as a named defendant, and the nearly half-million-dollar judgment against him, indicates that regulators viewed his participation as material and culpable.
Unregistered and Unlawful
Beyond the fraud itself, K-T 50 Wells violated basic securities registration requirements. The partnership interests being sold were securities under federal law, and selling securities to the public requires either registration with the SEC or qualification for an exemption. K-T 50 Wells did neither.
The registration requirement is not bureaucratic formalism. It exists to protect investors by ensuring they receive accurate, comprehensive information before making investment decisions. Registration requires detailed disclosures about the business, the risks, the use of proceeds, the compensation of promoters, and the financial condition of the issuer. It’s a pain-staking process that forces issuers to confront uncomfortable truths and put them in writing.
By operating without registration, Wayland and her co-defendants avoided all of that scrutiny. They could craft their own offering materials, emphasize the upside while minimizing or omitting risks, and avoid the detailed financial disclosures that registration requires. This lack of transparency was not accidental—it was essential to the fraud. Had K-T 50 Wells been required to register its offering, the scheme would have been exposed before it began.
The SEC’s complaint charged violations of Sections 5(a) and 5(c) of the Securities Act of 1933, the provisions governing registration requirements. These are strict liability violations, meaning the SEC need not prove intent or even knowledge. If you sell securities without registering them and without qualifying for an exemption, you’ve violated the law. Period.
But the charges went further. The complaint also alleged violations of Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act and Rule 10b-5, the broad antifraud provisions that prohibit deceptive practices in connection with securities transactions. These charges required proof that the defendants made material misrepresentations or omissions with scienter—a mental state embracing intent to deceive, manipulate, or defraud. The SEC alleged that Wayland, Liss, Dow, and Blasko knowingly deceived investors about how their money would be used and the true prospects of the wells.
Additionally, the complaint charged violations of Section 17(a) of the Securities Act, another antifraud provision with a slightly lower standard of proof. Section 17(a) includes three subsections, with subsections (1) and (3) requiring scienter, while subsection (2)—covering negligent misstatements—requires only a showing of negligence. The SEC threw the book at the defendants, charging every applicable fraud provision to ensure that conduct this egregious would be captured.
Finally, the SEC charged violations of Section 15(a) of the Exchange Act, which requires anyone acting as a broker or dealer to register with the agency. The individuals operating the K-T 50 Wells boiler room were soliciting investments for compensation—a classic brokerage activity. Yet none were registered. This violation underscored the operation’s complete disregard for securities regulations.
The Unraveling
Ponzi schemes collapse for a predictable reason: they require constant inflows of new money to sustain promised returns. Eventually, one of three things happens—the operator can’t find enough new investors, existing investors start demanding their principal back, or regulators catch on. For K-T 50 Wells, it was likely a combination of all three.
The SEC’s investigation began sometime before July 2017, when the agency filed its complaint in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California (Case No. 8:17-cv-01156). The investigative process likely involved interviews with investors who had complained, subpoenas for bank records and communications, and forensic accounting to trace the flow of funds. SEC enforcement attorneys would have built a timeline of misrepresentations, documented the diversion of investor funds, and calculated the total amount raised and lost.
For the investors, the unraveling was devastating. Many were retirees who had entrusted substantial portions of their savings to K-T 50 Wells based on promises of safe, steady income. When the payments stopped, they sought answers. When those answers weren’t forthcoming, they contacted regulators. Each complaint added to the SEC’s case file, each victim statement reinforced the pattern of fraud.
The moment when an investor realizes they’ve been defrauded is psychologically complex. There’s anger, certainly, but also shame and self-blame. How could I have been so foolish? Why didn’t I see the warning signs? These emotions are precisely what fraudsters count on. Many victims never come forward, too embarrassed to admit they were conned. Those who do report often wait months or years, hoping against hope that the situation will somehow resolve itself.
By the time the SEC filed its complaint in 2017, K-T 50 Wells had already imploded. The phone lines were quiet. The bank accounts were drained. Wayland and her co-defendants were left to face the legal consequences of a scheme that had enriched them temporarily but would haunt them permanently.
The Legal Reckoning
The SEC’s complaint sought broad relief: permanent injunctions barring the defendants from future securities violations, disgorgement of ill-gotten gains, civil penalties, and an order permanently prohibiting them from participating in securities offerings. For Barry Liss, the judgment came on July 19, 2019, when the court entered a final judgment against him.
The court ordered Liss to disgorge $464,665—the full amount he had received through his participation in the scheme. This was not characterized as a fine or penalty, but as restitution, a return of money that was never rightfully his. In securities fraud cases, disgorgement aims to strip defendants of their unjust enrichment, ensuring they don’t profit from their crimes.
Importantly, the judgment noted “$464,665 (None)” in the penalty field, indicating that while Liss was ordered to disgorge nearly half a million dollars, he was not assessed an additional civil monetary penalty. This suggests the court may have considered factors such as his role as a salesperson rather than the scheme’s architect, his financial condition, or a negotiated settlement with the SEC. Civil penalties in securities fraud cases can theoretically reach into the millions, so their absence here is notable.
The judgment also permanently enjoined Liss from violating the securities laws in the future. This is standard in SEC enforcement cases, serving both a deterrent function and a legal predicate for more severe consequences if the defendant reoffends. A permanent injunction doesn’t mean Liss can never work in finance again, but it does mean that any future securities law violation would be met with contempt charges and potentially criminal prosecution.
For Carol J. Wayland, the lead defendant, the consequences were presumably more severe, though the specific judgment terms for each defendant were issued separately. As the controlling figure in the scheme, she faced not only disgorgement and penalties but also the prospect of criminal charges. The SEC’s civil enforcement actions often run parallel to criminal investigations by the Department of Justice. It would not be surprising if Wayland and possibly others faced criminal charges for wire fraud, securities fraud, and money laundering.
Mitchell B. Dow and Steve G. Blasko, the other named co-defendants, also received final judgments, though the details of their individual penalties are not fully captured in the available summary. Each participant in a securities fraud scheme faces liability based on their specific role and degree of culpability. The SEC typically tailors its requested relief to match individual conduct, seeking higher penalties from those who orchestrated the fraud and more lenient terms for those who played supporting roles.
The recovery of funds for victims in cases like this is always challenging. Disgorgement orders often go unsatisfied because the defendants have spent the money or hidden it beyond the reach of authorities. Wayland’s personal spending meant that much of the $8 million raised was simply gone, consumed by luxury expenditures that cannot be clawed back. The SEC may have sought to freeze assets early in the case, but by the time enforcement actions are filed, fraudsters have typically dissipated much of the stolen funds.
The Human Cost
Behind the legal proceedings and financial tallies were real people whose lives were upended. The victims of K-T 50 Wells were not sophisticated hedge fund managers or institutional investors. They were ordinary Americans, many of them elderly, who believed they were making prudent investments in domestic energy production.
One can imagine the retired couple in Florida who invested $100,000—a significant portion of their nest egg—expecting monthly checks that would help cover medical expenses or visits from grandchildren. For the first few months, the checks arrived, modest but reassuring. Then they stopped. Phone calls went unreturned. Emails bounced back. The realization set in slowly and then all at once: the money was gone.
Or the widow in Arizona who had invested her late husband’s life insurance proceeds, seeking a conservative investment that would provide income while preserving capital. She had no way to verify production reports, no expertise in oil and gas operations, no reason to suspect that the friendly voice on the phone was lying to her. When the SEC filed its complaint and she saw her investment described as part of a fraudulent scheme, the betrayal was compounded by embarrassment. How could she tell her children what had happened?
The aggregate losses in the K-T 50 Wells case exceeded $8 million, spread across dozens of investors. Some lost everything they had. Others lost significant portions of their retirement savings. The financial damage was severe, but the psychological toll was perhaps worse. Fraud victims often experience symptoms similar to those of trauma survivors—anxiety, depression, difficulty trusting others, and a persistent sense of violation.
In victim impact statements submitted to courts in cases like this, recurring themes emerge: the loss of financial security, the erosion of trust, the sense of foolishness, and the anger at those who exploited that trust. These statements often have little impact on the legal outcome—the law moves forward based on statutes and precedents, not narratives of suffering—but they serve as a reminder of why these prosecutions matter.
The Broader Context: Oil Patch Fraud in America
The K-T 50 Wells scheme was not an isolated incident. Oil and gas investment fraud has a long and ignominious history in the United States, dating back more than a century to the early wildcatting days. The appeal is perennial: the promise of striking it rich, the tangibility of the asset, the patriotic framing of energy independence.
Legitimate oil and gas investments can be lucrative, especially in proven production areas. But they carry substantial risks: geological uncertainty, commodity price volatility, high upfront costs, and long payback periods. These risks make oil and gas unsuitable for most retail investors, particularly those seeking income rather than speculation.
Fraudsters like Wayland exploit the gap between the appeal of oil investment and the reality of its risks. They promise the upside while concealing or minimizing the downside. They use the complexity of the industry to their advantage, knowing that most investors cannot independently verify production data or assess geological reports. And they rely on Americans’ cultural associations with the oil business—rugged individualism, entrepreneurial spirit, tangible wealth—to make their pitches more persuasive.
The SEC has pursued dozens of oil and gas fraud cases over the decades. Some involve outright fabrication—wells that were never drilled, leases that never existed, production that was entirely fictional. Others, like K-T 50 Wells, involve real assets that are wildly misrepresented and investor funds that are systematically misappropriated. The common thread is exploitation: taking money from people who trust you and using it for purposes other than what was promised.
State securities regulators, particularly in oil-producing states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming, have also been active in policing oil and gas fraud. The North American Securities Administrators Association regularly warns investors about oil and gas scams, noting that they remain among the most common types of investment fraud reported to state regulators.
Why People Fall for It
The question of how intelligent people fall victim to fraud is complex and uncomfortable. It’s tempting to assume that fraud victims are simply gullible or unsophisticated, but research shows that anyone can be victimized under the right circumstances. What matters is not intelligence but vulnerability—emotional, financial, or informational.
Oil well schemes like K-T 50 Wells succeed because they activate multiple psychological triggers simultaneously. First, there’s the appeal of passive income, especially powerful for retirees on fixed incomes seeking to maintain their standard of living. Second, there’s the tangibility bias—the perception that physical assets like oil wells are safer than abstract financial instruments. Third, there’s the exploitation of trust, often built through persistent relationship-building by salespeople who position themselves as advisors rather than mere vendors.
The boiler room model is particularly effective because it allows for intensive relationship cultivation. A skilled salesperson might spend weeks or months nurturing a prospect, building rapport, establishing credibility, and gradually overcoming objections. By the time they ask for money, the psychological groundwork has been laid. The investor is not evaluating a cold pitch; they’re responding to someone they’ve come to trust.
Moreover, fraud schemes often provide social proof through fabricated testimonials, references to other investors, and the appearance of regulatory compliance. K-T 50 Wells likely provided offering documents that looked professional and legitimate, complete with legal disclaimers (albeit insufficient or misleading ones). This veneer of legitimacy is crucial. Most people want to believe they’re making prudent decisions, and they look for evidence that confirms that belief.
The Aftermath for Barry Liss
For Barry Liss, the final judgment in 2019 marked the end of legal proceedings but likely not the end of consequences. A nearly half-million-dollar disgorgement order, even if ultimately uncollectible, creates a permanent financial liability. The SEC can pursue collection through liens, garnishments, and other means for years or even decades.
Beyond the financial penalties, the reputational damage is severe and lasting. A simple Google search of Liss’s name now returns SEC enforcement documents describing his role in a multimillion-dollar fraud. This digital scarlet letter makes future employment in finance or any position of trust extremely difficult. Background checks will flag the SEC judgment. Professional licensing boards will deny applications. Even personal relationships can be strained when associates discover the fraud conviction.
There’s also the possibility of criminal charges, though the available records do not indicate whether Liss faced prosecution beyond the SEC’s civil case. Federal prosecutors are selective about which fraud cases they pursue criminally, typically focusing on the most egregious conduct or the most culpable defendants. As a salesperson rather than the scheme’s architect, Liss may have been spared criminal prosecution, particularly if he cooperated with investigators.
The psychology of participants in fraud schemes is complex. Some, like Wayland, are clearly sophisticated operators who design and direct the fraud with full awareness of its illegality. Others, like salespeople in a boiler room, may begin their involvement with incomplete information, gradually becoming aware of the fraud but continuing to participate due to financial incentives, peer pressure, or rationalization. “The oil wells are real.” “Some investors are making money.” “I’m just doing my job.”
These rationalizations crumble under scrutiny, and they certainly provide no legal defense. Willful blindness is not a shield against liability. Securities law imposes obligations to verify the accuracy of statements made to investors, to disclose material information, and to comply with registration requirements. Ignorance, even genuine ignorance, is rarely an excuse.
For Liss, the question of what he knew and when he knew it is ultimately less important than what he did. He participated in a scheme that defrauded vulnerable investors of millions of dollars. He received substantial compensation for that participation. And he failed to fulfill his obligations under securities law. The final judgment reflects those failures.
Lessons and Implications
The K-T 50 Wells case offers several lessons for investors, regulators, and those who work in or around the securities industry. First, the promise of steady, high returns from a tangible asset should be treated with extreme skepticism. Legitimate investments carry risk, and higher returns correlate with higher risk. When someone promises low-risk, high-return investments, they are either lying or ignorant, and neither is acceptable.
Second, the presence of physical assets does not guarantee legitimacy. Fraud can involve real oil wells just as easily as fictitious ones. What matters is not whether assets exist but whether representations about those assets are truthful and whether investor funds are used as promised.
Third, high-pressure sales tactics are a massive red flag. Legitimate investment opportunities do not require boiler room operations or cold calling campaigns. If someone is urgently pushing you to invest, especially in something complex or unfamiliar, walk away.
Fourth, always verify registration. Before investing in any security, check whether it’s registered with the SEC or qualifies for an exemption. Check whether the salesperson is a registered broker. These searches take minutes and can be done on the SEC’s website. They’re your first line of defense against fraud.
Finally, for those working in sales or marketing roles within investment operations, the K-T 50 Wells case is a stark reminder that “just following orders” or “just doing my job” provides no protection against liability. If you’re selling investments, you have a legal and ethical obligation to ensure that what you’re telling investors is true. If you suspect fraud, you have an obligation to stop participating and, ideally, to report it to authorities. The temporary financial gain is not worth the permanent consequences.
The Enduring Question
What drives someone like Barry Liss to participate in a scheme like this? Was it pure greed? Financial desperation? A gradual moral compromise that began with small rationalization and escalated to outright fraud? The legal record provides facts but rarely offers insight into motivation or mindset.
Perhaps Liss believed, at least initially, that K-T 50 Wells was legitimate. Perhaps he was told by Wayland or others that the wells were productive, that investors were receiving returns, that everything was above board. Perhaps the large commissions were justified to him as standard industry practice. These explanations, if true, might make his participation more understandable, though not more excusable.
Or perhaps he knew from the beginning that the operation was fraudulent and simply didn’t care. The money was good. The work was easy. The investors were faceless names on the other end of a phone line, abstractions rather than real people with real lives and real vulnerabilities. This cynical calculation, while morally repugnant, is psychologically comprehensible. People are capable of extraordinary compartmentalization when financial incentives are strong enough.
The truth likely lies somewhere in between: initial optimism or ignorance giving way to growing awareness, which was then suppressed through rationalization and self-interest. This pattern is common in fraud cases. Few people wake up one morning and decide to commit fraud. Instead, they make a series of small compromises, each seeming justifiable in isolation, until they find themselves deeply complicit in something they never intended to be part of.
The victims of K-T 50 Wells, of course, are not interested in the psychological complexity of Barry Liss’s decision-making. They want their money back. They want accountability. They want to know that those who defrauded them have faced real consequences. The final judgment of $464,665 represents an attempt at justice, though it’s an imperfect one. Money judgments can be evaded or discharged in bankruptcy. The pain of financial loss and betrayed trust cannot.
A Cautionary Epilogue
In the years since the K-T 50 Wells scheme collapsed, the landscape of investment fraud has evolved but not fundamentally changed. The methods shift—cryptocurrency replaces oil wells, social media replaces boiler rooms—but the underlying dynamics remain constant. Fraudsters identify a compelling investment narrative, build trust through persistence and false credibility, promise returns that seem attractive but plausible, and then misappropriate investor funds while maintaining the illusion of legitimacy for as long as possible.
The SEC continues to pursue enforcement actions against oil and gas fraudsters, though they now compete for attention with cryptocurrency scams, FinTech frauds, and other modern variations. The K-T 50 Wells case, filed in 2017 and concluded in 2019, belongs to a slightly earlier era of fraud, one less digital but no less devastating to its victims.
For Barry Liss, the case is concluded in a legal sense but likely not in a practical one. The disgorgement order creates a liability that will follow him indefinitely. The public record of his participation in the fraud will shadow any attempt to rebuild his professional reputation. And somewhere, perhaps, the memory of the investors he helped defraud weighs on his conscience—though the legal record offers no evidence of remorse.
The office park in California where the phones once rang with fraudulent oil well pitches is likely quiet now, occupied by some other business or sitting vacant. The wells in Kentucky and Tennessee, if they exist at all, pump their meager barrels for someone else’s account. And the victims, scattered across the country, navigate their financial lives with the diminished resources that remain after Barry Liss and his co-defendants took their cut.
Justice in fraud cases is always incomplete. Money stolen can sometimes be recovered, but trust once broken is difficult to restore. The final judgment against Barry Liss represents society’s attempt to hold him accountable, to make him pay for the harm he caused, and to deter others from following the same path. Whether it succeeds in any of those aims is a question that only time, and the decisions of those who might be tempted by similar schemes, can answer.